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Hi there ..

Sven Gothel
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Within the next few days and weeks,
we will relaunch JOGL, launch JOCL
and present it as JogAmp.

We don't expect this ML to be a high volume one,
but if this changes we may add a developer list
and/or one for each subcomponent.

However .. our 1st steps are to make this baby running again :)

http://jogamp.org

Pre releases will always be available under:
        http://jogamp.org/deployment/webstart-next/

Have fun ..

Cheers, Sven
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JogAmp?

RobertMacHardy
Sven,

What do you mean "relaunch JOGL" and "make this baby running again"?

Thank you,
Robert
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Re: JogAmp?

Sven Gothel
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On Wednesday 28 April 2010 19:26:28 RobertMacHardy [via jogamp-general] wrote:
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> Sven,
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> What do you mean "relaunch JOGL" and "make this baby running again"?

That JOGL is continued, enhanced and supported and will be.

Our huge changes in the last 1.5 month surely enhanced it,
e.g. queried available GL profile at startup time, support ATI, etc,
but as those things are .. regressions happen.

We are now in a feature freeze mode, fixing bugs and finalizing
our new infrastructure.
The latter includes autobuilds, auto junit tests, git repository,
bugzilla and last but not least, this mailinglist.

Further more, we have signed JARs,
also running well under the latest JRE's (6u19/6u20 mixed-mode thingy).

You are very welcome.

~Sven

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> Thank you,
> Robert
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Re: JogAmp?

RobertMacHardy
Sven,

Was it to be discontinued?  I don't believe JOGL was always under the name JogAmp.  Is it still an official Java extension?

Thank you,
Robert
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Sven Gothel
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On Wednesday 28 April 2010 19:51:37 RobertMacHardy [via jogamp-general] wrote:
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> Sven,
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> Was it to be discontinued?  

I can not speak for Sun Microsystems anymore,
however .. let the repositories speak for themselves:

The Kenai repo I started in 2009 ..
        http://kenai.com/projects/jogl/sources/jogl-git/history
        http://kenai.com/projects/gluegen/sources/gluegen-git/history

My current golden git branch
        http://github.com/sgothel/jogl/commits/master
        http://github.com/sgothel/gluegen/commits/master
       
As you clearly can see, the kenai one has not experienced any new
checkins, neither GL4 support, not even support for the new
JRE mixed-mode applets restrictions (which we have).
Besides these facts we also incooperate JOCL and more to come.

> I don't believe JOGL was always under the name JogAmp.  
Indeed.
Michael and I chose that name as a roof over the subcomponents.
It was essential to find a new home and future for our project[s].

> Is it still an official Java extension?
I am sorry to say that not even JOGL2 made it
to become the desired JSR-231 upgrade.

Since the original manager of JOGL2, me,
and the most important commiter are part of our team,
as well as the userland follows us - we have no concerns about
so called JSR standards.

If you have time and are willing to support us with such actions
you are more than welcome.

Another strategy would be to discuss our architecture with Khronos etc,
however, this is not essential for the success of this project.
JOGL and the other components are dynamically loaded and cached extensions
everybody may use and support.
The actual API is stable (javax.media.*) and we are not insane :)

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> Thank you,

You are very welcome.

~Sven

> Robert
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Re: JogAmp?

Michael Bien
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Robert,
JogAmp is the community around JOGL, JOAL, JOCL and GlueGen (and maybe more in future). Technically speaking its just a namespace for all projects.

JOGL was never a java extension, it was a normal library. Nothing changed regarding this topic.

best regards,

michael
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