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OpenAL Soft 1.15.1 is out

Xerxes Rånby
http://kcat.strangesoft.net/openal.html

JogAmp JOAL will use OpenAL soft if the OpenAL Soft library is found at runtime.
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Re: OpenAL Soft 1.15.1 is out

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Why aren't OpenAL-Soft native libraries bundled with JOAL native library under Windows in the latest aggregated builds?
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Re: OpenAL Soft 1.15.1 is out

Xerxes Rånby
Because we have not managed to get the windows jenkins node to build it.

we require the node to use cmake in a way that is compatible with mingw to produce the openal-soft native.
This require some setup experimentation on a windows machine to make it happen.

I have tested to use cmake from cygwin to setup openal-soft under windows without any sucess.

Once we can build openal-soft manually on windows we will make the jenkins node build it and start to bundle the natives inside the jogamp builds.

Xerxes

2013/3/22 gouessej [via jogamp] <[hidden email]>
Why aren't OpenAL-Soft native libraries bundled with JOAL native library under Windows in the latest aggregated builds?


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Re: OpenAL Soft 1.15.1 is out

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Thank you for this explanation. Is JOAL able to load soft_oal.dll if it is in the PATH environment variable?
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Re: OpenAL Soft 1.15.1 is out

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Xerxes Rånby wrote
Because we have not managed to get the windows jenkins node to build it.

we require the node to use cmake in a way that is compatible with mingw to
produce the openal-soft native.
This require some setup experimentation on a windows machine to make it
happen.

I have tested to use cmake from cygwin to setup openal-soft under windows
without any success.
Can you tell me more about what you tested and what didn't work so that I can investigate a little bit?

Edit.: Does it help?
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Re: OpenAL Soft 1.15.1 is out

Xerxes Rånby
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hmm actually no.. the soft_oal.dll is not added to the list of names joal uses to look for the native,
https://github.com/JogAmp/joal/blob/master/src/java/jogamp/openal/ALDynamicLibraryBundleInfo.java
this is a bug!

I was not aware that the prebuilt openal-soft dlls used this custom soft_oal.dll name for windows..
if you rename soft_oal.dll to OpenAL32.dll then JOAL will pick it up.


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Thank you for this explanation. Is JOAL able to load soft_oal.dll if it is in the PATH environment variable?
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Re: OpenAL Soft 1.15.1 is out

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I'll fix this bug ;)

Why can't we simply use MXE? It would allow to compile OpenAL-Soft for Windows under GNU Linux :)
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Xerxes Rånby
Thank you!

Never tested MXE, if you manage to compile windows native openal-soft dll's using the MXE cmake then *thumbs up* that would be a great solution!

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I'll fix this bug ;)

Why can't we simply use MXE? It would allow to compile OpenAL-Soft for Windows under GNU Linux :)
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Re: OpenAL Soft 1.15.1 is out

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On 03/22/2013 02:06 PM, gouessej [via jogamp] wrote:
> I'll fix this bug ;)
>
> Why can't we simply use MXE <http://mxe.cc>? It would allow to compile
> OpenAL-Soft for Windows under GNU Linux :)

crosscompilation would then require to move the binaries from
the linux build node to the windows build node ..

in short: it would create quite a mess and complicate our already 'heavy'
jenkins setup.

note-1: we compile and test the stuff on the machines

note-2: we do crosscompile the GNU/Linux ARM targets incl. Android,
        able to launch tests remotely.
        tbh .. I haven't enabled the remote test ..

Whatever the solution is .. even a practical one would be OK,
i.e. a manual compiled DLL file, which should be pushed
to our repository then.
If time allows .. we could make it beautiful later (compile source code).

~Sven



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Re: OpenAL Soft 1.15.1 is out

Sven Gothel
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On 03/22/2013 02:10 PM, Xerxes Rånby [via jogamp] wrote:
> Thank you!
>
> Never tested MXE, if you manage to compile windows native openal-soft dll's
> using the MXE cmake then *thumbs up* that would be a great solution!

curbing your enthusiasm .. a practical workaround, see my other post. :)

~Sven



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Re: OpenAL Soft 1.15.1 is out

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If I spend too much time under Windows, I will just throw my younger brother's laptop away, even the file explorer is broken...

I can fix the dynamic loader in order to take soft_oal.dll into consideration and maybe I can modify the Ant script to wrap soft_oal.dll in joal-natives-*.jar. Would then GlueGen extract it correctly?
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Re: OpenAL Soft 1.15.1 is out

Xerxes Rånby
If you want to include soft_oal.dll into the build then simply copy the dll to
joal/make/lib/windows-i586
or 64bit to
joal/make/lib/windows-amd64

The ant script will then include the dll inside the jar.

Cheers
Xerxes


2013/3/22 gouessej [via jogamp] <[hidden email]>
If I spend too much time under Windows, I will just throw my younger brother's laptop away, even the file explorer is broken...

I can fix the dynamic loader in order to take soft_oal.dll into consideration and maybe I can modify the Ant script to wrap soft_oal.dll in joal-natives-*.jar. Would then GlueGen extract it correctly?
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Re: OpenAL Soft 1.15.1 is out

Xerxes Rånby
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You also need to change joal/make/build.xml line 438 to include the soft_oal name.
add
<include name="*soft_oal.${native.library.suffix}" />

2013/3/22 Xerxes Rånby <[hidden email]>
If you want to include soft_oal.dll into the build then simply copy the dll to
joal/make/lib/windows-i586
or 64bit to
joal/make/lib/windows-amd64

The ant script will then include the dll inside the jar.

Cheers
Xerxes


2013/3/22 gouessej [via jogamp] <[hidden email]>

If I spend too much time under Windows, I will just throw my younger brother's laptop away, even the file explorer is broken...

I can fix the dynamic loader in order to take soft_oal.dll into consideration and maybe I can modify the Ant script to wrap soft_oal.dll in joal-natives-*.jar. Would then GlueGen extract it correctly?
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Re: OpenAL Soft 1.15.1 is out

gouessej
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I cannot rebuild JOAL under Windows 32 bits and Windows 64 bits, I only have a single laptop under Windows 7 64 bits. Can we temporarily copy the DLLs of OpenAL-Soft downloadable on the official website into our repository until we are able to build this library with our own node?
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Sven Gothel
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On 03/22/2013 09:50 PM, gouessej [via jogamp] wrote:
> I cannot rebuild JOAL under Windows 32 bits and Windows 64 bits, I only have a
> single laptop under Windows 7 64 bits.

You can produce and test 32bit binaries on a 64bit machine.

~Sven


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Re: OpenAL Soft 1.15.1 is out

gouessej
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Please can you have a look at my pull request?
https://github.com/sgothel/joal/pull/11

I'm going to install OpenAL-Soft on some machines under Windows to check if it works flawlessly with JOAL.
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Re: OpenAL Soft 1.15.1 is out

gouessej
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Sven, do you like this solution?
http://tuer.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tuer/pre_beta/build.xml?r1=657&r2=658

I download the ZIP containing OpenAL-Soft binaries for Windows, I extract the useful DLLs, I put them into JOAL JARs and I clean up my mess. I just hope they don't depend on msvcrt.
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Sven Gothel
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On 03/23/2013 12:39 PM, gouessej [via jogamp] wrote:
> Sven, do you like this solution?
> http://tuer.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tuer/pre_beta/build.xml?r1=657&r2=658
>
> I download the ZIP containing OpenAL-Soft binaries for Windows, I extract the
> useful DLLs, I put them into JOAL JARs and I clean up my mess. I just hope
> they don't depend on msvcrt.

As a manual binary blob update for windows - YES, that is great.
Then you could update the blob in the repo!

But I would not like to do this at build time,
i.e. injecting untested binary blobs.

So .. as a ant recipe for manual use, test and git commit - cool.
A good remedy until we know how to do it right on Windows.
I vote to integrate this piece into JOAL.
Thank you.

Cheers, Sven



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Sven Gothel
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On 03/23/2013 10:51 AM, gouessej [via jogamp] wrote:
> Please can you have a look at my pull request?
> https://github.com/sgothel/joal/pull/11
>

Thank you - will do!

~Sven



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Re: OpenAL Soft 1.15.1 is out

gouessej
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Thanks, I'm going to test it now with the latest autobuild.
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