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There is a very recurrent problem with all projects of JogAmp, people hardly find where to download its libraries. The following page is empty... which does not help a lot: http://jogamp.org/wiki/index.php/Release_2.0-rc3 I suggest some changes to allow people to find download links more easily: - the "Builds" section should remain unchanged - each sub-project should have a "download" link. Currently, the user must click on "Home"... - this "download" link should lead to a page with 2 links (one for the latest release or release candidate and one for the latest nightly builds) - it should be possible to download JOGL / JOAL / JOCL with GlueGen at the same time (not in 2 separate archives) or the download page should mention that GlueGen is required to run JOGL / JOAL / JOCL - the main page should have a download section above the "Builds" section leading to a page with 2 links etc... but allowing to download JOGL, JOAL, JOCL and GlueGen at the same time Currently a lot of people are confused and search for the JARs for hours. I have never had such problems but we have to take into account that some newbies don't even know what the word "Builds" mean (especially non native speakers). A lot of people complained about the difficulty of finding the JARs for example on Stackoverflow.
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Yeah it's quite painfull to download jogl. It's better with the jogamp-*.7z, but I remember before that to have lost hours and just failed to get jogl.
"Signed Candidate": not sure of the version or build number (so I'm not using it). I need all platforms lib so "Devbuilds" seems unusable for me (there's too many files). "master branch" (and "Signed Release") is better but still 7 different files and I have the impression all the big files are just the same with only platforms libs which differs (libs are quite small): would have been much better to have a one file with everything. Hope my comment will be usefull to improve jogl download.
Jérôme
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On Monday, December 19, 2011 10:17:58 PM jouvieje [via jogamp] wrote:
> > Yeah it's quite painfull to download jogl. It's better with the jogamp-*.7z, > but I remember before that to have lost hours and just failed to get jogl. > > "Signed Candidate": not sure of the version or build number (so I'm not > using it). I need all platforms lib so "Devbuilds" seems unuasable for me > (there's too many files). "master branch" (and "Signed Release") is better > but still 7 different files and I have the impression all the big files are > just the same with only platforms which differs (which are in fact quite > small): would have been much better to have a one file with everything > (especially with slow connection, can't have better from here). > > Hope my comment will be usefull to improve jogl download. Yup, I remember and have not forgotten it :) I will add this to the next release, ie -all_platforms.7z file. Nevertheless, I guess the Build/Downloads is quite visible right now and the direct wikipedia link to the latest 'release' as well. I agree .. all the mumbo jumbo about 'Signed Candidate' .. etc needs to be reduced. Question: Is the path to the latest release download, ie v2.0-rc5 clear and easy right now ? And if offering the -all_platforms.7z file, is it ok then ? Hint: You can also clone our jogamp.org git repository and offer a better solution - if you like doing it directly. ~Sven |
About the build nomenclature, I think there is two use case:
1) Release/Stable builds: for people new to jogl or who wish to get lastest stable and tested build 2) Dev builds: for people who want/need to get the latest fix or enhancements but without building it from git ! Not sure if it's really needed to expose more than that (simpler is better). For these two cases, having the "ie -all_platforms.7z file." would be perfect :) About the visibility, may be "Builds/Downloads" would be better than "Builds" reading the comment of gouessej. Not sure if "Signed" is really needed in the sub category.
Jérôme
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On Monday, December 19, 2011 10:51:48 PM jouvieje [via jogamp] wrote:
> > About the build nomenclature, I think there is two use case: > 1) Release/Stable builds: for people new to jogl or who wish to get lastest > stable and tested build > 2) Dev builds: for people who want/need to get the latest fix or > enhancements but without building it from git ! > Not sure if it's really needed to expose more than that (simpler is better). > > For these two cases, having the "ie -all_platforms.7z file." would be > perfect :) Yup. Somehow we have it (planned) this way already. - current - next - specific releases - the autobuilds for the 'curious' :) Ok. > > > About the visibility, may be "Builds/Downloads" would be better than > "Builds" reading the comment of gouessej. > Not sure if "Signed" is really needed in the sub category. Yup, named it this way in JOGL/JOCL, will do this on the main page as well. Thx. ~Sven |
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