JSR 231 is using default MS driver, not card driver

I'm posting here after a discussion in javagaming.org:

http://www.java-gaming.org/index.php/topic,24438.0.html

I'm trying to get a JOGL app to run on my laptop after upgrading from JOGL 1.1.1 to JSR 231.  For some reason, JSR 231 is trying to do this with OpenGL 1.1.0.  JOGL 1.1.1 was able to find the OpenGL 2.1.7 that my card supports.  The card is an ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2300.  Can you help?

I assume your ATI drivers are the latest versions? It's always good to check this -- saves a lot of debugging time

Yes, it's at the latest version.  They haven't released a new driver for it in years.

Are you running the app on an external monitor, or on the laptop's built-in monitor? I've sometimes seen that JOGL (back in the 1.1.1a days at least) would see the Microsoft OpenGL driver when the app was run on an external monitor of a laptop.

Also, what OS type and version are you running?

I'm rendering to the built in laptop LCD screen.  I am not using an external monitor.

I'm using windows Vista
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6002]

OK then, the next step is to try the test script that comes with the JOGL installation. This script enumerates the display modes available on your machine, and might tell us something useful.

Once you've downloaded and unzipped a JOGL build, cd into its top-level directory and type "etc\test.bat > normal.log". Then edit the file etc\test.bat to add these three things

 "-Dnewt.debug=all" "-Dnativewindow.debug=all" "-Djogl.debug=all"

to the end of the line that sets X_ARGS. Then type "etc\test.bat > debug.log". This creates the same log, but with extra debug info turned on.

Finally, post your normal.log and debug.log here, and we can take a look and maybe see what's going on

normal.logdebug.log

Here you go.

Hmm, the output of the test script looks fine -- JOGL is finding your ATI card with no problem:

GL Profile    GLProfile[GL2/GL2]
CTX VERSION   2.1 (compatibility profile, any, old) - 2.1.7412 Release
GL            jogamp.opengl.gl4.GL4bcImpl@1d2fc36
GL_VENDOR     ATI Technologies Inc.
GL_VERSION    2.1.7412 Release

The next step is trying one of the JOGL unit tests to see if it works. First copy junit.jar, ant.jar, and ant-junit.jar into the "jar" dir of a JOGL installation (I assume you've got JUnit and Ant installed somewhere so you can get these JARs). Then cd into the JOGL installation directory and type this:

java -cp ".;jar\gluegen-rt.jar;jar\nativewindow.all.jar;jar\jogl.all.jar;jar\newt.all.jar;jar\jogl.test.jar;jar\junit.jar;jar\ant.jar;jar\ant-junit.jar" -Djava.library.path=lib com.jogamp.opengl.test.junit.jogl.demos.gl2.gears.TestGearsAWT

You should see a window with spinning gears, and the unit test's result should be "OK" on the command line. If this fails for some reason, add

-Dnewt.debug=all -Dnativewindow.debug=all -Djogl.debug=all

to the command line, rerun the unit test, and post the command line output here.

I got a message saying it could not find the JUnit test to run.  Is there something missing on the classpath?

C:\bin\java\jogl\jogl-2.0-b23-20110303-windows-i586\jar>java -cp ".;jar\gluegen-
rt.jar;jar\nativewindow.all.jar;jar\jogl.all.jar;jar\newt.all.jar;jar\jogl.test.
jar;jar\junit.jar;jar\ant.jar;jar\ant-junit.jar" -Djava.library.path=lib -Dnewt.
debug=all -Dnativewindow.debug=all -Djogl.debug=all com.jogamp.opengl.test.junit
.jogl.demos.gl2.gears.TestGearsAWT
Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: com/jogamp/opengl/tes
t/junit/jogl/demos/gl2/gears/TestGearsAWT
Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: com.jogamp.opengl.test.junit.jogl.d
emos.gl2.gears.TestGearsAWT
        at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:200)
        at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
        at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:188)
        at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:307)
        at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Launcher.java:301)
        at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:252)
        at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClassInternal(ClassLoader.java:320)
Could not find the main class: com.jogamp.opengl.test.junit.jogl.demos.gl2.gears
.TestGearsAWT.  Program will exit.

On Sunday, July 03, 2011 06:17:27 PM Wade Walker [via jogamp] wrote:
.. but all surfaces are GDI only (pixelformat/GLCaps), hence SW rendering I assume.

See yours versus our pixelformats/GLCaps ..

Maybe you like to verify the pixelformats w/ GLView from http://www.realtech-vr.com/glview/
  - start glview
  - go-to: Display Modes & pixel formats ..

This could happen, if you are using a remote display connection (RDC) or the driver is
not installed correctly .. or (maybe) we have a bug.

Please verify both, JOGL and a native application.

Cheers, Sven

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YOU (ATI/WinVista 32bit):

GLCaps[1 gdi: on-scr, rgba 8/8/8/8, opaque, accum-rgba 0/0/0/0, dp/st/ms: 24/8/0, one, mono  , hw, GLProfile[GL2/GL2]]
GLCaps[2 gdi: on-scr, rgba 8/8/8/8, opaque, accum-rgba 0/0/0/0, dp/st/ms: 24/8/0, dbl, mono  , hw, GLProfile[GL2/GL2]]
GLCaps[3 gdi: on-scr, rgba 8/8/8/8, opaque, accum-rgba 0/0/0/0, dp/st/ms: 24/8/0, dbl, mono  , hw, GLProfile[GL2/GL2]]
GLCaps[4 gdi: on-scr, rgba 8/8/8/8, opaque, accum-rgba 16/16/16/16, dp/st/ms: 24/8/0, one, mono  , hw, GLProfile[GL2/GL2]]
GLCaps[5 gdi: on-scr, rgba 8/8/8/8, opaque, accum-rgba 16/16/16/16, dp/st/ms: 24/8/0, dbl, mono  , hw, GLProfile[GL2/GL2]]
GLCaps[6 gdi: on-scr, rgba 8/8/8/8, opaque, accum-rgba 16/16/16/16, dp/st/ms: 24/8/0, dbl, mono  , hw, GLProfile[GL2/GL2]]

..
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OURS (ATI/Win7 32bit on 64bit):

https://jogamp.org/chuck/job/jogl/lastSuccessfulBuild/label=win7-x86_32-amd/consoleFull#ant-target-1003
(scroll down until you reach:

[echo] Testing com.jogamp.opengl.test.junit.jogl.acore.TestGLProfile01NEWT -- ../build/test/results/TEST-com.jogamp.opengl.test.junit.jogl.acore.TestGLProfile01NEWT.xml
    [apply] Testsuite: com.jogamp.opengl.test.junit.jogl.acore.TestGLProfile01NEWT
    [apply] junit.framework.TestListener: tests to run: 6
    [apply] junit.framework.TestListener: startTest(test00Version)

 [apply] GLCaps[1 arb: on-scr, rgba 8/8/8/8, opaque, accum-rgba 0/0/0/0, dp/st/ms: 24/8/0, one, mono  , hw, GLProfile[GL2/GL2]]
    [apply] GLCaps[1 arb: offscr, rgba 8/8/8/8, opaque, accum-rgba 0/0/0/0, dp/st/ms: 24/8/0, one, mono  , hw, GLProfile[GL2/GL2], pbuffer [r2t 0, r2tr 0, float 0]]
    [apply] GLCaps[2 arb: on-scr, rgba 8/8/8/8, opaque, accum-rgba 0/0/0/0, dp/st/ms: 24/8/0, dbl, mono  , hw, GLProfile[GL2/GL2]]
    [apply] GLCaps[2 arb: offscr, rgba 8/8/8/8, opaque, accum-rgba 0/0/0/0, dp/st/ms: 24/8/0, dbl, mono  , hw, GLProfile[GL2/GL2], pbuffer [r2t 0, r2tr 0, float 0]]
    [apply] GLCaps[3 arb: on-scr, rgba 8/8/8/8, opaque, accum-rgba 0/0/0/0, dp/st/ms: 24/8/0, dbl, mono  , hw, GLProfile[GL2/GL2]]
    [apply] GLCaps[3 arb: offscr, rgba 8/8/8/8, opaque, accum-rgba 0/0/0/0, dp/st/ms: 24/8/0, dbl, mono  , hw, GLProfile[GL2/GL2], pbuffer [r2t 0, r2tr 0, float 0]]
    [apply] GLCaps[4 arb: on-scr, rgba 8/8/8/8, opaque, accum-rgba 16/16/16/16, dp/st/ms: 24/8/0, one, mono  , hw, GLProfile[GL2/GL2]]
    [apply] GLCaps[4 arb: offscr, rgba 8/8/8/8, opaque, accum-rgba 16/16/16/16, dp/st/ms: 24/8/0, one, mono  , hw, GLProfile[GL2/GL2], pbuffer [r2t 0, r2tr 0, float 0]]

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My mistake.  I went into the parent dir and tried gain.  This time the gears showed up for about half a second and this was the output:

C:\bin\java\jogl\jogl-2.0-b23-20110303-windows-i586>java -cp ".;jar\gluegen-rt.j
ar;jar\nativewindow.all.jar;jar\jogl.all.jar;jar\newt.all.jar;jar\jogl.test.jar;
jar\junit.jar;jar\ant.jar;jar\ant-junit.jar" -Djava.library.path=lib com.jogamp.
opengl.test.junit.jogl.demos.gl2.gears.TestGearsAWT
JUnit version 4.9b2
Locked C:\Users\kitfox\AppData\Local\Temp\UITestCase.lock
.++++ UITestCase.setUp: com.jogamp.opengl.test.junit.jogl.demos.gl2.gears.TestGe
arsAWT
WindowEvent[WINDOW_RESIZED, NEWTEvent[sys:false, source:java.awt.Frame, when:130
9738011916 d 0ms]]
WindowEvent[EVENT_WINDOW_GAINED_FOCUS, NEWTEvent[sys:false, source:java.awt.Fram
e, when:1309738011953 d 0ms]]
WindowEvent[WINDOW_RESIZED, NEWTEvent[sys:false, source:java.awt.Frame, when:130
9738011966 d 0ms]]
WindowEvent[WINDOW_MOVED, NEWTEvent[sys:false, source:java.awt.Frame, when:13097
38011979 d 0ms]]
WindowEvent[EVENT_WINDOW_GAINED_FOCUS, NEWTEvent[sys:false, source:java.awt.Fram
e, when:1309738011988 d 0ms]]
Gears: Init
gear1 list created: 1
gear2 list created: 2
gear3 list created: 3
Gears: Reshape 0/0 496x476
WindowEvent[EVENT_WINDOW_LOST_FOCUS, NEWTEvent[sys:false, source:java.awt.Frame,
 when:1309738012520 d 1ms]]
Gears: Dispose
WindowEvent[EVENT_WINDOW_LOST_FOCUS, NEWTEvent[sys:false, source:java.awt.Frame,
 when:1309738012563 d 0ms]]
++++ UITestCase.tearDown: com.jogamp.opengl.test.junit.jogl.demos.gl2.gears.Test
GearsAWT

Time: 2.965

OK (1 test)

I installed the glview program, but I'm not sure exactly what it is you want me to verify.  

I'm declaring my capabilities like this:
[code]
    private static GLCapabilities getCapabilities()
    {
        GLProfile glprofile = GLProfile.getDefault();
        GLCapabilities cap = new GLCapabilities(glprofile);

        System.err.println(cap);

        return cap;
    }
[/code]

The println gives:
GL_WIN_swap_hint GL_EXT_bgra GL_EXT_paletted_texture

I am able to run a different JOGL 1.1.1 app that does use shaders on this same machine with no problems.  I'm not running this on a remote display device.  I've also run games that I'm pretty sure use shaders on this machine.

Since the JOGL gears test runs, it's probably just using one of those non-hardware-accelerated surfaces that test.bat reported. So the question then would be "Why doesn't JOGL see any hardware-accelerated surfaces?"

Sven, is there anything else we can do to figure this out? There may be more information in the debug version of the log that Kitfox posted, but I can't decipher the output

kitfox wrote

I installed the glview program, but I'm not sure exactly what it is you want me to verify.  

It sounds like Sven wants you get the list of pixel formats from GLView so we can compare that to the list of pixel formats that test.bat reported.

Are you sure there aren't more recent drivers? You said there haven't been any for years, but when I look at http://support.amd.com/us/Pages/AMDSupportHub.aspx under "Notebook Graphics", "Radeon HD Series", "Mobility Radeon HD 2xxx Series", "Windows Vista - 32 Bit", it shows me revision 11.6 that was just released 6/15/2011. Maybe you've been looking only on the notebook manufacturer's web page?

On Monday, July 04, 2011 03:13:02 AM Wade Walker [via jogamp] wrote:
>
> Since the JOGL gears test runs, it's probably just using one of those
> non-hardware-accelerated surfaces that test.bat reported. So the question
> then would be "Why doesn't JOGL see any hardware-accelerated surfaces?"
>
> Sven, is there anything else we can do to figure this out? There may be more
> information in the debug version of the log that Kitfox posted, but I can't
> decipher the output

His debug output of test.bat says:

GLCaps[2 gdi: on-scr, rgba 8/8/8/8, opaque, accum-rgba 0/0/0/0, dp/st/ms: 24/8/0, dbl, mono  , hw, GLProfile[GL2/GL2]]
..
GLCaps[6 gdi: on-scr, rgba 8/8/8/8, opaque, accum-rgba 16/16/16/16, dp/st/ms: 24/8/0, dbl, mono  , hw, GLProfile[GL2/GL2]]
GLCaps[31 gdi: on-scr, rgba 8/8/8/0, opaque, accum-rgba 16/16/16/0, dp/st/ms: 32/8/0, one, mono  , sw, GLProfile[GL2/GL2]]
..

WGLGLCapabilities.setValuesByGDI() determined GLCaps's getHardwareAccelerated() [ hw / sw ]
      setHardwareAccelerated((pfd.getDwFlags() & GDI.PFD_GENERIC_FORMAT) == 0
                          || (pfd.getDwFlags() & GDI.PFD_GENERIC_ACCELERATED) != 0);

 requested GLCaps[on-scr, rgba 8/8/8/0, opaque, accum-rgba 0/0/0/0, dp/st/ms: 16/0/0, dbl, mono  , hw, GLProfile[GL2/GL2]],
 chosen    GLCaps[2 gdi: on-scr, rgba 8/8/8/8, opaque, accum-rgba 0/0/0/0, dp/st/ms: 24/8/0, dbl, mono  , hw, GLProfile[GL2/GL2]]]

so it worked out well.

Hence I would love to see your not working application using JOGL2
with the debug flags enabled.

Or have I missed this information .. i.e. have you already provided this info here ?

~Sven

I tried running my app with the debug flags, but it crashed before it got to the point where it attempts to use shaders.  Here's the log:

jogl2.log

Here is what glview is showing me.  I don't see any list of pixel formats.

I've been using the Windows driver update feature to tell me if I'm up to date.  I downloaded the program you suggested, but was unable to complete installation:

Hmm, this line in your jogl2.log is certainly suggestive:

Info: GLJPanel: Falling back on software rendering because of problems creating pbuffer

I've also seen something like this

Exception in thread "AWT-EventQueue-0" javax.media.opengl.GLException: wglARBPFID2GLCapabilities: Error getting pixel format attributes for pixel format 44 of device context 0x75011313, werr 0

before on older OSes and drivers. Perhaps something else in there will give Sven a clue.

As for the drivers, I've never tried the Windows driver update -- I've always done it either from the computer manufacterer's site (if the video card came with the computer), or from the video card manufacturer's site. Maybe your computer manufacterer has a newer driver listed?

Well, the driver tha AMD website lists won't install on my machine.  And the Gateway page for my tablet doesn't list any video drivers either.  (I have a Gateway M250 and their damn website won't let me link to their driver page with a URL.  It's hiding the relevant info in a cookie)

http://support.gateway.com/us/en/product/default.aspx?tab=1

Bizarre -- I looked at the Gateway web site for the M250 notebook, and in the "Support Documents" specifications sections they say all the models have the same video card: "Intel® Extreme Graphics 2 integrated in Northbridge 915GM". Are you sure there's really a ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2300 in there? Maybe we're looking at the wrong notebook model somehow?

The device driver tells me its a Radeon. 

 

I'm pretty sure its an M250 - that's what I remember it being from a few years back.  However, their support service isn't accepting my serial number for lookup and they don't actually print the correct model number on the PC itself.  (The actual printed model number is TC7, which isn't even listed as a make of Gateway notebook). 

 

Gateway is a pretty miserable hardware vendor, but it's the laptop I'm currently stuck with.

 

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Subject: Re: JSR 231 is using default MS driver, not card driver
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 07:49:23 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Wade Walker [via jogamp]" <[hidden email]>
To: kitfox <[hidden email]>

Bizarre -- I looked at the Gateway web site for the M250 notebook, and in the "Support Documents" specifications sections they say all the models have the same video card: "Intel® Extreme Graphics 2 integrated in Northbridge 915GM". Are you sure there's really a ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2300 in there? Maybe we're looking at the wrong notebook model somehow?

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