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— by Sven Gothel Sven Gothel
On 10/15/2014 05:17 PM, io7m [via jogamp] wrote:

> While I'm currently indifferent as to whether or not the project needs a new
> forum... An attempt was actually made last year due to Nabble falling over
> under heavy load.
>
> Basically, the requirements of anything we host ourselves are:
>
> * Security - The project's source code lives on that server. We have mirrors
> in lots of places, but any compromise would likely still be bad news.
> * Support for posting over mail. Sven uses the forum as a mailing list, as he
> said.
> * Importing data into the new system in a manner that preserves URIs. Put
> anything into a search engine about JOGL and you'll get hundreds of results
> linking to specific forum posts. That's something we don't want to mess with!
>
> phpbb has an attrocious security history (as do the majority of PHP projects).
> They claim to have improved things, but I'm skeptical that systemic problems
> like that can ever be fixed. They claim to be able to import data from Nabble,
> but I don't see any claim that URIs will be preserved.
>
> We tried punbb.org (http://punbb.org), because although it was still PHP, it
> was a lot smaller and had a better security history than any of the others. It
> was a bit too minimal though: It didn't have any support for mail or importing
> data from Nabble.
>
> We then tried SMF (http://simplemachines.org). Their security history at the
> time was "better than phpbb", but I don't know any more than that. They did
> have a mailing list plugin to allow posting via mail, and it gave every
> appearance of working. When it came to Nabble, however...
>
> http://jogamp.org/log/irc/jogamp_20130701050539.html#l80
>
> So it kind of stalled there.
>
> If there was an option that satisfied the first two requirements, I'd not
> personally be opposed to putting the Nabble forum in a read-only state and
> starting a new forum on a different subdomain (if it's even possible to do
> this with Nabble). This would preserve the old links but direct all new posts
> to the new forum.
>
> Like I said, though, I'm indifferent. If people are picking software projects
> based on the software used to drive the project forum, then we probably don't
> need them!
@Mark: Thank you for summarizing this task, I agree in all points of course.

@Elect: Maybe you can test importing the nabble DB into simplemachines.org,
        ensuring preserved URIs.
        If you need the DB dump, pls send me a private email
        and I will give you an URI for it.
        Mark already once tested importing as you can read in the IRC log.

~Sven



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